[quote|format=featured]***To clarify, I didn't buy the phone piecemeal; it came with a Pixel 6a, which included this particular phone as part of the deal. I did not know it would be a VZW Pixel, but knowing it's a thing, I ran the IMEI#, and it said: "-VZW" when I got it. Fastboot confirms this too.***
***That's a red flag I walk away from if there's not another device (like a bootloader unlockable 6a without a SIM lock and can never be locked) to make dealing with it viable. Verizon+Pixel is a deal breaker for me, and a borderline curse word.***[/quote]
I want to use a Verizon P3a 64GB with devices that are pretty picky about the Android build, seemingly fail on newer devices, and are just picky in general. I've had trouble with 2 LG Phoenix devices (AT&T PREPAID unlocked, so they got a few SW updates and run Android 10; rejected due to connection issues and use of MicroUSB). My old Samsung A42 5G (U1, Android 13) also had issues, as well as my Pixel 7 (Google Unlocked, Android 14). None of these worked.
Even my Pixel 6a and Pixel 8 (both run Android 14; the P8 is new to me, but it's a Google unlocked phone without the cursed Verizon bootloader) refuse to connect to this thing. Gah, I think Android 12+ refuses to connect to this device. I give up trying modern phones -_-... I even believe BOTH my iPhone 12 and 15 Pro decided to give me grief.
However, I have two super old Android 10 phones that worked from Motorola, where this idea originated. Since I don't use that Verizon P3a for much of anything (since I can't flash newer software on it), it's forever stuck at Android 12.
As such, I want to try and downgrade it back to Android 11 at the absolute latest patch level for the P3a on 11. I know it will be 4+ years back on patches under 11 5/5/22 on 12, but if it can be downgraded, I can always bring it back up compared to my other legacy devices that are permanently stuck without 4+ years of patches )(4/1/21, 2021 G Play; 6/1/21/G7 Play).
Is there any way to downgrade the phone back to 11, or am I screwed because of the Verizon bootloader? If I can do it, what version do I need?
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I may be screwed, given it's a Verizon phone...
***To clarify, I didn't buy the phone piecemeal; it came with a Pixel 6a, which included this particular phone as part of the deal. I did not know it would be a VZW Pixel, but knowing it's a thing, I ran the IMEI#, and it said: "-VZW" when I got it. Fastboot confirms this too.***
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[quote|format=featured]***To clarify, I didn't buy the phone piecemeal; it came with a Pixel 6a, which included this particular phone as part of the deal. I did not know it would be a VZW Pixel, but knowing it's a thing, I ran the IMEI#, and it said: "-VZW" when I got it. Fastboot confirms this too.***
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***That's a red flag I walk away from if there's not another device (like a bootloader unlockable 6a without a SIM lock and can never be locked) to make dealing with it viable. Verizon+Pixel is a deal breaker for me, and a borderline curse word.***
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***That's a red flag I walk away from if there's not another device (like a bootloader unlockable 6a without a SIM lock and can never be locked) to make dealing with it viable. Verizon+Pixel is a deal breaker for me, and a borderline curse word.***[/quote]
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I want to use a Verizon P3a 64GB with devices that are pretty picky about the Android build, seemingly fail on newer devices, and are just picky in general. I've had trouble with 2 LG Phoenix devices (AT&T PREPAID unlocked, so they got a few SW updates and run Android 10; rejected due to connection issues and use of MicroUSB). My old Samsung A42 5G (U1, Android 13) also had issues, as well as my Pixel 7 (Google Unlocked, Android 14). None of these worked.
Even my Pixel 6a and Pixel 8 (both run Android 14; the P8 is new to me, but it's a Google unlocked phone without the cursed Verizon bootloader) refuse to connect to this thing. Gah, I think Android 12+ refuses to connect to this device. I give up trying modern phones -_-... I even believe BOTH my iPhone 12 and 15 Pro decided to give me grief.
However, I have two super old Android 10 phones that worked from Motorola, where this idea originated. Since I don't use that Verizon P3a for much of anything (since I can't flash newer software on it), it's forever stuck at Android 12.
As such, I want to try and downgrade it back to Android 11 at the absolute latest patch level for the P3a on 11. I know it will be 4+ years back on patches under 11 5/5/22 on 12, but if it can be downgraded, I can always bring it back up compared to my other legacy devices that are permanently stuck without 4+ years of patches )(4/1/21, 2021 G Play; 6/1/21/G7 Play).
Is there any way to downgrade the phone back to 11, or am I screwed because of the Verizon bootloader? If I can do it, what version do I need?
***To clarify, I didn't buy the phone piecemeal; it came with a Pixel 6a, which included this particular phone as part of the deal. I did not know it would be a VZW Pixel, but knowing it's a thing, I ran the IMEI#, and it said: "-VZW."***
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***To clarify, I didn't buy the phone piecemeal; it came with a Pixel 6a, which included this particular phone as part of the deal. I did not know it would be a VZW Pixel, but knowing it's a thing, I ran the IMEI#, and it said: "-VZW" when I got it. Fastboot confirms this too.***
***That's a red flag I walk away from if there's not another device (like a bootloader unlockable 6a without a SIM lock and can never be locked) to make dealing with it viable. Verizon+Pixel is a deal breaker for me, and a borderline curse word.***
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I want to use a Verizon P3a 64GB with devices that are pretty picky about the Android build, seemingly fail on newer devices, and are just picky in general. I've had trouble with 2 LG Phoenix devices (AT&T PREPAID unlocked, so they got a few SW updates and run Android 10; rejected due to connection issues and use of MicroUSB). My old Samsung A42 5G (U1, Android 13) also had issues, as well as my Pixel 7 (Google Unlocked, Android 14). None of these worked.
Even my Pixel 6a and Pixel 8 (both run Android 14; the P8 is new to me, but it's a Google unlocked phone without the cursed Verizon bootloader) refuse to connect to this thing. Gah, I think Android 12+ refuses to connect to this device. I give up trying modern phones -_-... I even believe BOTH my iPhone 12 and 15 Pro decided to give me grief.
However, I have two super old Android 10 phones that worked from Motorola, where this idea originated. Since I don't use that Verizon P3a for much of anything (since I can't flash newer software on it), it's forever stuck at Android 12.
As such, I want to try and downgrade it back to Android 11 at the absolute latest patch level for the P3a on 11. I know it will be 4+ years back on patches under 11 5/5/22 on 12, but if it can be downgraded, I can always bring it back up compared to my other legacy devices that are permanently stuck without 4+ years of patches )(4/1/21, 2021 G Play; 6/1/21/G7 Play).
Is there any way to downgrade the phone back to 11, or am I screwed because of the Verizon bootloader? If I can do it, what version do I need?
Before it comes up, I didn't buy the phone piecemeal; it came with a junk device lot (or I had to take it to get a deal on a nicer device and didn't know about the Verizon bootloader initially). Seeing that curse word in the title, I would have run far away from this.
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***To clarify, I didn't buy the phone piecemeal; it came with a Pixel 6a, which included this particular phone as part of the deal. I did not know it would be a VZW Pixel, but knowing it's a thing, I ran the IMEI#, and it said: "-VZW."***
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I want to use a Verizon P3a 64GB with devices that are pretty picky about the Android build and seemingly fail on newer devices and just being picky in general. I've had trouble with 2 LG Phoenix devices (Android 10, rejected due to connection issues and MicroUSB; PITA factor), a Samsung A42 5G (U1, Android 13), and my old Pixel 7 (Android 14), and none of these worked.
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***That's a red flag I walk away from if there's not another device (like a bootloader unlockable 6a without a SIM lock and can never be locked) to make dealing with it viable. Verizon+Pixel is a deal breaker for me, and a borderline curse word.***
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I want to use a Verizon P3a 64GB with devices that are pretty picky about the Android build, seemingly fail on newer devices, and are just picky in general. I've had trouble with 2 LG Phoenix devices (AT&T PREPAID unlocked, so they got a few SW updates and run Android 10; rejected due to connection issues and use of MicroUSB). My old Samsung A42 5G (U1, Android 13) also had issues, as well as my Pixel 7 (Google Unlocked, Android 14). None of these worked.
Even my Pixel 6a and Pixel 8 (both run Android 14; the P8 is new to me, but it's a Google unlocked phone without the cursed Verizon bootloader) refuse to connect to this thing. Gah, I think Android 12+ refuses to connect to this device. I give up trying modern phones -_-... I even believe BOTH my iPhone 12 and 15 Pro decided to give me grief.
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However, I have two super old Android 10 phones that worked from Motorola, where this idea originated. Since I have that P3a (with the Verizon stained bootloader), I don't use it for much of anything since I can't flash newer software on it, and the phone is forever stuck at Verizon Android builds. This led me to the idea of downgrading the device to Android 11 so I can see if I can get away with knocking that phone down one version and avoid having to use a phone that is 4+ years outdated on security patches (with the understanding the P3a on Android 11 may not be MUCH better, but at least I know it will be at October 2011 vs 4/1/21 (G Play 2021) or 6/1/21 (G7 Play).
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However, I have two super old Android 10 phones that worked from Motorola, where this idea originated. Since I don't use that Verizon P3a for much of anything (since I can't flash newer software on it), it's forever stuck at Android 12.
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Is there any way to downgrade the phone back to 11, or is this phone screwed because of the Verizon bootloader so I can try to add another device to the pool? If I can do it, what version do I need?
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As such, I want to try and downgrade it back to Android 11 at the absolute latest patch level for the P3a on 11. I know it will be 4+ years back on patches under 11 5/5/22 on 12, but if it can be downgraded, I can always bring it back up compared to my other legacy devices that are permanently stuck without 4+ years of patches )(4/1/21, 2021 G Play; 6/1/21/G7 Play).
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Is there any way to downgrade the phone back to 11, or am I screwed because of the Verizon bootloader? If I can do it, what version do I need?
Before it comes up, I didn't buy the phone piecemeal; it came with a junk device lot (or I had to take it to get a deal on a nicer device and didn't know about the Verizon bootloader initially). Seeing that curse word in the title, I would have run far away from this.
I want to use a Verizon P3a 64GB with devices that are pretty picky about the Android build and seemingly fail on newer devices and just being picky in general. I've had trouble with 2 LG Phoenix devices (Android 10, rejected due to connection issues and MicroUSB; PITA factor), a Samsung A42 5G (U1, Android 13), and my old Pixel 7 (Android 14), and none of these worked.
Even my Pixel 6a and Pixel 8 (both run Android 14; the P8 is new to me, but it's a Google unlocked phone without the cursed Verizon bootloader) refuse to connect to this thing. Gah, I think Android 12+ refuses to connect to this device. I give up trying modern phones -_-... I even believe BOTH my iPhone 12 and 15 Pro decided to give me grief.
However, I have two super old Android 10 phones that worked from Motorola, where this idea originated. Since I have that P3a (with the Verizon stained bootloader), I don't use it for much of anything since I can't flash newer software on it, and the phone is forever stuck at Verizon Android builds. This led me to the idea of downgrading the device to Android 11 so I can see if I can get away with knocking that phone down one version and avoid having to use a phone that is 4+ years outdated on security patches (with the understanding the P3a on Android 11 may not be MUCH better, but at least I know it will be at October 2011 vs 4/1/21 (G Play 2021) or 6/1/21 (G7 Play).
Is there any way to downgrade the phone back to 11, or is this phone screwed because of the Verizon bootloader so I can try to add another device to the pool? If I can do it, what version do I need?
Before it comes up, I didn't buy the phone piecemeal; it came with a junk device lot (or I had to take it to get a deal on a nicer device and didn't know about the Verizon bootloader initially). Seeing that curse word in the title, I would have run far away from this.
I want to use a Verizon P3a 64GB with devices that are pretty picky about the Android build and seemingly fail on newer devices and just being picky in general. I've had trouble with 2 LG Phoenix devices (Android 10, rejected due to connection issues and MicroUSB; PITA factor), a Samsung A42 5G (U1, Android 13), and my old Pixel 7 (Android 14), and none of these worked.
Even my Pixel 6a and Pixel 8 (both run Android 14; the P8 is new to me, but it's a Google unlocked phone without the cursed Verizon bootloader) refuse to connect to this thing. Gah, I think Android 12+ refuses to connect to this device. I give up trying modern phones -_-... I even believe BOTH my iPhone 12 and 15 Pro decided to give me grief.
However, I have two super old Android 10 phones that worked from Motorola, where this idea originated. Since I have that P3a (with the Verizon stained bootloader), I don't use it for much of anything since I can't flash newer software on it, and the phone is forever stuck at Verizon Android builds. This led me to the idea of downgrading the device to Android 11 so I can see if I can get away with knocking that phone down one version and avoid having to use a phone that is 4+ years outdated on security patches (with the understanding the P3a on Android 11 may not be MUCH better, but at least I know it will be at October 2011 vs 4/1/21 (G Play 2021) or 6/1/21 (G7 Play).
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Is there any way to downgrade the phone back to 11, or is this phone screwed because of the Verizon bootloader so I can add another device to the pool? If I can do it, what version do I need?
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Is there any way to downgrade the phone back to 11, or is this phone screwed because of the Verizon bootloader so I can try to add another device to the pool? If I can do it, what version do I need?
Before it comes up, I didn't buy the phone piecemeal; it came with a junk device lot (or I had to take it to get a deal on a nicer device and didn't know about the Verizon bootloader initially). Seeing that curse word in the title, I would have run far away from this.
I want to use a Verizon P3a 64GB with devices that are pretty picky about the Android build and seemingly fail on newer devices and just being picky in general. I've had trouble with 2 LG Phoenix devices (Android 10, rejected due to connection issues and MicroUSB; PITA factor), a Samsung A42 5G (U1, Android 13), and my old Pixel 7 (Android 14), and none of these worked.
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Even my Pixel 6a and Pixel 8 (both run Android 14; this phone is new to me, but it's a Google unlocked phone without the cursed Verizon bootloader) refuse to connect to this thing. Gah, I think Android 12+ refuses to connect to this device. I give up trying modern phones -_-... I even believe BOTH my iPhone 12 and 15 Pro decided to give me grief.
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Even my Pixel 6a and Pixel 8 (both run Android 14; the P8 is new to me, but it's a Google unlocked phone without the cursed Verizon bootloader) refuse to connect to this thing. Gah, I think Android 12+ refuses to connect to this device. I give up trying modern phones -_-... I even believe BOTH my iPhone 12 and 15 Pro decided to give me grief.
However, I have two super old Android 10 phones that worked from Motorola, where this idea originated. Since I have that P3a (with the Verizon stained bootloader), I don't use it for much of anything since I can't flash newer software on it, and the phone is forever stuck at Verizon Android builds. This led me to the idea of downgrading the device to Android 11 so I can see if I can get away with knocking that phone down one version and avoid having to use a phone that is 4+ years outdated on security patches (with the understanding the P3a on Android 11 may not be MUCH better, but at least I know it will be at October 2011 vs 4/1/21 (G Play 2021) or 6/1/21 (G7 Play).
Is there any way to downgrade the phone back to 11, or is this phone screwed because of the Verizon bootloader so I can add another device to the pool? If I can do it, what version do I need?
Before it comes up, I didn't buy the phone piecemeal; it came with a junk device lot. Seeing that curse word in the title, I would have run far away from this.
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Before it comes up, I didn't buy the phone piecemeal; it came with a junk device lot (or I had to take it to get a deal on a nicer device and didn't know about the Verizon bootloader initially). Seeing that curse word in the title, I would have run far away from this.
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I have a Verizon P3a 64GB I want to use with devices that are pretty picky about the Android build. I've had trouble with 2 LG Phoenix devices (Android 10, rejected due to connection issues and MicroUSB), a Samsung A42 5G (U1, Android 13), and my old Pixel 7 (Android 14), and none of these worked.
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I want to use a Verizon P3a 64GB with devices that are pretty picky about the Android build and seemingly fail on newer devices and just being picky in general. I've had trouble with 2 LG Phoenix devices (Android 10, rejected due to connection issues and MicroUSB; PITA factor), a Samsung A42 5G (U1, Android 13), and my old Pixel 7 (Android 14), and none of these worked.
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Even my Pixel 6a and Pixel 8 (both run Android 14; this phone is new to me, but it's a Google unlocked phone without the cursed Verizon bootloader) refuse to connect to this thing. Gah, I think Android 12+ refuses to connect to this device. I give up trying modern phones -_-...
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Even my Pixel 6a and Pixel 8 (both run Android 14; this phone is new to me, but it's a Google unlocked phone without the cursed Verizon bootloader) refuse to connect to this thing. Gah, I think Android 12+ refuses to connect to this device. I give up trying modern phones -_-... I even believe BOTH my iPhone 12 and 15 Pro decided to give me grief.
However, I have two super old Android 10 phones that worked from Motorola, where this idea originated. Since I have that P3a (with the Verizon stained bootloader), I don't use it for much of anything since I can't flash newer software on it, and the phone is forever stuck at Verizon Android builds. This led me to the idea of downgrading the device to Android 11 so I can see if I can get away with knocking that phone down one version and avoid having to use a phone that is 4+ years outdated on security patches (with the understanding the P3a on Android 11 may not be MUCH better, but at least I know it will be at October 2011 vs 4/1/21 (G Play 2021) or 6/1/21 (G7 Play).
Is there any way to downgrade the phone back to 11, or is this phone screwed because of the Verizon bootloader so I can add another device to the pool? If I can do it, what version do I need?
Before it comes up, I didn't buy the phone piecemeal; it came with a junk device lot. Seeing that curse word in the title, I would have run far away from this.
I have a Verizon P3a 64GB I want to use with devices that are pretty picky about the Android build. I've had trouble with 2 LG Phoenix devices (Android 10, rejected due to connection issues and MicroUSB), a Samsung A42 5G (U1, Android 13), and my old Pixel 7 (Android 14), and none of these worked.
Even my Pixel 6a and Pixel 8 (both run Android 14; this phone is new to me, but it's a Google unlocked phone without the cursed Verizon bootloader) refuse to connect to this thing. Gah, I think Android 12+ refuses to connect to this device. I give up trying modern phones -_-...
However, I have two super old Android 10 phones that worked from Motorola, where this idea originated. Since I have that P3a (with the Verizon stained bootloader), I don't use it for much of anything since I can't flash newer software on it, and the phone is forever stuck at Verizon Android builds. This led me to the idea of downgrading the device to Android 11 so I can see if I can get away with knocking that phone down one version and avoid having to use a phone that is 4+ years outdated on security patches (with the understanding the P3a on Android 11 may not be MUCH better, but at least I know it will be at October 2011 vs 4/1/21 (G Play 2021) or 6/1/21 (G7 Play).
Is there any way to downgrade the phone back to 11, or is this phone screwed because of the Verizon bootloader so I can add another device to the pool? If I can do it, what version do I need?
Before it comes up, I didn't buy the phone piecemeal; it came with a junk device lot. Seeing that curse word in the title, I would have run far away from this.
I have a Verizon P3a 64GB I want to use with devices that are pretty picky about the Android build. I've had trouble with 2 LG Phoenix devices (Android 10, rejected due to connection issues and MicroUSB), a Samsung A42 5G (U1, Android 13), and my old Pixel 7 (Android 14), and none of these worked.
Even my Pixel 6a and Pixel 8 (both run Android 14; this phone is new to me, but it's a Google unlocked phone without the cursed Verizon bootloader) refuse to connect to this thing. Gah, I think Android 12+ refuses to connect to this device. I give up trying modern phones -_-...
However, I have two super old Android 10 phones that worked from Motorola, where this idea originated. Since I have that P3a (with the Verizon stained bootloader), I don't use it for much of anything since I can't flash newer software on it, and the phone is forever stuck at Verizon Android builds. This led me to the idea of downgrading the device to Android 11 so I can see if I can get away with knocking that phone down one version and avoid having to use a phone that is 4+ years outdated on security patches (with the understanding the P3a on Android 11 may not be MUCH better, but at least I know it will be at October 2011 vs 4/1/21 (G Play 2021) or 6/1/21 (G7 Play).
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Is there any way to downgrade the phone back to 11, or is this phone screwed because of the Verizon bootloader? If I can do it, what version do I need?
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Is there any way to downgrade the phone back to 11, or is this phone screwed because of the Verizon bootloader so I can add another device to the pool? If I can do it, what version do I need?
Before it comes up, I didn't buy the phone piecemeal; it came with a junk device lot. Seeing that curse word in the title, I would have run far away from this.
I have a Verizon P3a 64GB I want to use with devices that are pretty picky about the Android build. I've had trouble with 2 LG Phoenix devices (Android 10, rejected due to connection issues and MicroUSB), a Samsung A42 5G (U1, Android 13), and my old Pixel 7 (Android 14), and none of these worked.
Even my Pixel 6a and Pixel 8 (both run Android 14; this phone is new to me, but it's a Google unlocked phone without the cursed Verizon bootloader) refuse to connect to this thing. Gah, I think Android 12+ refuses to connect to this device. I give up trying modern phones -_-...
However, I have two super old Android 10 phones that worked from Motorola, where this idea originated. Since I have that P3a (with the Verizon stained bootloader), I don't use it for much of anything since I can't flash newer software on it, and the phone is forever stuck at Verizon Android builds. This led me to the idea of downgrading the device to Android 11 so I can see if I can get away with knocking that phone down one version and avoid having to use a phone that is 4+ years outdated on security patches (with the understanding the P3a on Android 11 may not be MUCH better, but at least I know it will be at October 2011 vs 4/1/21 (G Play 2021) or 6/1/21 (G7 Play).
Is there any way to downgrade the phone back to 11, or is this phone screwed because of the Verizon bootloader? If I can do it, what version do I need?