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Titolo:

MacBook Pro 15'' late 2013 really hot at normal usage

Testo:

Hey guys,

my machine: rMBP 15'' late 2013 (2,6 i7; 16GB Ram; Geforce 750M 2GB, 500GB SSD) with macOS High Sierra 10.13.6 (clean install)

'''The main problem:'''

The fan goes nuts without any obvious reason (at least to me) just when I plug in an external display. This wasn't the case a year ago, but gradually became worse over the time. My setup and usage hasn't changed, though. I'm a webdeveloper and use the following applications on a daily basis:

Safari, Chrome, Mail, Evernote, Slack, Trello, Mamp Pro, Sublime Text 3, Dash, CodeKit – Dropbox, BetterTouchTool, Bartender 3, Alfred 3

For a couple of years now the system get's annoyingly hot. And when with a second screen (full hd) the fan kicks in, although the CPU activity is lower than 15%

Some more background:

* On average the machine goes 7-9 hours a day for the last 5 years.
* Roughly half a year ago I made a clean install of High Sierra
* I regularly open the back and clean out the dust with a lil camera air blower
* 450gig of the 500gig HD is full (but he didn't care about that for years..)
* About 2 years ago I made a PRAM reset

Wild guesses on what's causing the heat-issue:

* Broken battery?
* Processor heat conductive paste worn off?
* operating system sucks up more performance? (please nooh..)
* SSD drive worn out?

I don't want to try every trick I find on the web, I rather get advice from you guys for my specific situation.

My questions:

1) Is it worth letting a diagnostic tool run over the Mac to see if the hardware is okay?

2) Could the hardware just be worn out like this?

3) How would you suggest I proceed in order to reduce the heat (remember.. the CPU activity is low when the machine is hot)

Looking at the touch bar, butterfly keys and immense raise in price, I find these new MacBooks really unattractive. But leaving macOS is not an option for me, and a Hackintosh Laptop is just too unsafe.

I hope to use this beauty of a laptop for at least 2 more years.

Thank you very much,

René

EDIT: Here is the coconutbattery

[image|1513499]

Here is the DriveDX Report

[image|1513504]

EDIT2: Here the TG Pro screenshot

[image|1514318]

=== Update (08/01/2018) ===

As you asked: I added a screenshot from TG Pro; to me the temperature doens't look so high. Correct me if I'm wrong. (Why are there 2SSDs? One A, one B?) – I now have 80gigs free space (424/500) and still the machine is hot, fan is active and the overall performance doesn't feel as responsive and smooth–

I am making a rough spring cleaning right now, although it's not so easy, because I'm pretty organized already; I don't like my current external drive solution (normal SATA3 hdds with an usb docking station) but will make room for at least 125gigs of free space.

I will see how it performs then; but are you still positive that a new SSD is the solution to the problem? I just don't see why else hardware should degrade to this point; .. or is it really the software that became this much more demanding over the years? .. but then again: my cpu isn't really working, neither is the GPU.. , I guess? So why the !&&* is it getting so hot :D

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MacBook Pro 15" Retina Display Late 2013

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Modifica di: Kater Louis ,

Titolo:

MacBook Pro 15'' late 2013 really hot at normal usage

Testo:

Hey guys,
 
my machine: rMBP 15'' late 2013 (2,6 i7; 16GB Ram; Geforce 750M 2GB, 500GB SSD) with macOS High Sierra 10.13.6 (clean install)
 
'''The main problem:'''
 
The fan goes nuts without any obvious reason (at least to me) just when I plug in an external display. This wasn't the case a year ago, but gradually became worse over the time. My setup and usage hasn't changed, though. I'm a webdeveloper and use the following applications on a daily basis:
 
Safari, Chrome, Mail, Evernote, Slack, Trello, Mamp Pro, Sublime Text 3, Dash, CodeKit – Dropbox, BetterTouchTool, Bartender 3, Alfred 3
 
For a couple of years now the system get's annoyingly hot. And when with a second screen (full hd) the fan kicks in, although the CPU activity is lower than 15%
 
Some more background:
 
* On average the machine goes 7-9 hours a day for the last 5 years.
* Roughly half a year ago I made a clean install of High Sierra
* I regularly open the back and clean out the dust with a lil camera air blower
* 450gig of the 500gig HD is full (but he didn't care about that for years..)
* About 2 years ago I made a PRAM reset
 
Wild guesses on what's causing the heat-issue:
 
* Broken battery?
* Processor heat conductive paste worn off?
* operating system sucks up more performance? (please nooh..)
* SSD drive worn out?
 
I don't want to try every trick I find on the web, I rather get advice from you guys for my specific situation.
 
My questions:
 
1) Is it worth letting a diagnostic tool run over the Mac to see if the hardware is okay?
 
2) Could the hardware just be worn out like this?
 
3) How would you suggest I proceed in order to reduce the heat (remember.. the CPU activity is low when the machine is hot)
 
Looking at the touch bar, butterfly keys and immense raise in price, I find these new MacBooks really unattractive. But leaving macOS is not an option for me, and a Hackintosh Laptop is just too unsafe.
 
I hope to use this beauty of a laptop for at least 2 more years.
 
Thank you very much,
 
René
 
EDIT: Here is the coconutbattery
 
[image|1513499]
 
Here is the DriveDX Report
 
[image|1513504]
[image|1513504]
 
EDIT2: Here the TG Pro screenshot
 
[image|1514318]
 
=== Update (08/01/2018) ===
 
As you asked: I added a screenshot from TG Pro; to me the temperature doens't look so high. Correct me if I'm wrong. (Why are there 2SSDs? One A, one B?) – I now have 80gigs free space (424/500) and still the machine is hot, fan is active and the overall performance doesn't feel as responsive and smooth–
 
I am making a rough spring cleaning right now, although it's not so easy, because I'm pretty organized already; I don't like my current external drive solution (normal SATA3 hdds with an usb docking station) but will make room for at least 125gigs of free space.
 
I will see how it performs then; but are you still positive that a new SSD is the solution to the problem? I just don't see why else hardware should degrade to this point; .. or is it really the software that became this much more demanding over the years? .. but then again: my cpu isn't really working, neither is the GPU.. , I guess? So why the !&&* is it getting so hot :D

Dispositivo:

MacBook Pro 15" Retina Display Late 2013

Stato:

open

Modifica di: Kater Louis ,

Titolo:

MacBook Pro 15'' late 2013 really hot at normal usage

Testo:

Hey guys,
 
my machine: rMBP 15'' late 2013 (2,6 i7; 16GB Ram; Geforce 750M 2GB, 500GB SSD) with macOS High Sierra 10.13.6 (clean install)
 
'''The main problem:'''
 
The fan goes nuts without any obvious reason (at least to me) just when I plug in an external display. This wasn't the case a year ago, but gradually became worse over the time. My setup and usage hasn't changed, though. I'm a webdeveloper and use the following applications on a daily basis:
 
Safari, Chrome, Mail, Evernote, Slack, Trello, Mamp Pro, Sublime Text 3, Dash, CodeKit – Dropbox, BetterTouchTool, Bartender 3, Alfred 3
 
For a couple of years now the system get's annoyingly hot. And when with a second screen (full hd) the fan kicks in, although the CPU activity is lower than 15%
 
Some more background:
 
* On average the machine goes 7-9 hours a day for the last 5 years.
* Roughly half a year ago I made a clean install of High Sierra
* I regularly open the back and clean out the dust with a lil camera air blower
* 450gig of the 500gig HD is full (but he didn't care about that for years..)
* About 2 years ago I made a PRAM reset
 
Wild guesses on what's causing the heat-issue:
 
* Broken battery?
* Processor heat conductive paste worn off?
* operating system sucks up more performance? (please nooh..)
* SSD drive worn out?
 
I don't want to try every trick I find on the web, I rather get advice from you guys for my specific situation.
 
My questions:
 
1) Is it worth letting a diagnostic tool run over the Mac to see if the hardware is okay?
 
2) Could the hardware just be worn out like this?
 
3) How would you suggest I proceed in order to reduce the heat (remember.. the CPU activity is low when the machine is hot)
 
Looking at the touch bar, butterfly keys and immense raise in price, I find these new MacBooks really unattractive. But leaving macOS is not an option for me, and a Hackintosh Laptop is just too unsafe.
 
I hope to use this beauty of a laptop for at least 2 more years.
 
Thank you very much,
 
René
 
EDIT: Here is the coconutbattery
 
[image|1513499]
[image|1513499]
 
Here is the DriveDX Report
[image|1513504
[image|1513504]

EDIT2: Here the TG Pro screenshot

[image|1514318
]
[image|1513504
[image|1513504]

EDIT2: Here the TG Pro screenshot

[image|1514318
]

Dispositivo:

MacBook Pro 15" Retina Display Late 2013

Stato:

open

Modifica di: Kater Louis ,

Titolo:

MacBook Pro 15'' late 2013 really hot at normal usage

Testo:

Hey guys,
 
my machine: rMBP 15'' late 2013 (2,6 i7; 16GB Ram; Geforce 750M 2GB, 500GB SSD) with macOS High Sierra 10.13.6 (clean install)
 
'''The main problem:'''
 
The fan goes nuts without any obvious reason (at least to me) just when I plug in an external display. This wasn't the case a year ago, but gradually became worse over the time. My setup and usage hasn't changed, though. I'm a webdeveloper and use the following applications on a daily basis:
 
Safari, Chrome, Mail, Evernote, Slack, Trello, Mamp Pro, Sublime Text 3, Dash, CodeKit – Dropbox, BetterTouchTool, Bartender 3, Alfred 3
 
For a couple of years now the system get's annoyingly hot. And when with a second screen (full hd) the fan kicks in, although the CPU activity is lower than 15%
 
Some more background:
 
* On average the machine goes 7-9 hours a day for the last 5 years.
* Roughly half a year ago I made a clean install of High Sierra
* I regularly open the back and clean out the dust with a lil camera air blower
* 450gig of the 500gig HD is full (but he didn't care about that for years..)
* About 2 years ago I made a PRAM reset
 
Wild guesses on what's causing the heat-issue:
 
* Broken battery?
* Processor heat conductive paste worn off?
* operating system sucks up more performance? (please nooh..)
* SSD drive worn out?
 
I don't want to try every trick I find on the web, I rather get advice from you guys for my specific situation.
 
My questions:
 
1) Is it worth letting a diagnostic tool run over the Mac to see if the hardware is okay?
 
2) Could the hardware just be worn out like this?
 
3) How would you suggest I proceed in order to reduce the heat (remember.. the CPU activity is low when the machine is hot)
 
Looking at the touch bar, butterfly keys and immense raise in price, I find these new MacBooks really unattractive. But leaving macOS is not an option for me, and a Hackintosh Laptop is just too unsafe.
 
I hope to use this beauty of a laptop for at least 2 more years.
 
Thank you very much,
 
René
René
 
EDIT: Here is the coconutbattery
 
[image|1513499]
 
EDIT: HereHere is the coconutbattery
[image|1513499
DriveDX Report
[image|1513504
]
EDIT: HereHere is the coconutbattery
[image|1513499
DriveDX Report
[image|1513504
]

Dispositivo:

MacBook Pro 15" Retina Display Late 2013

Stato:

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Modifica di: Kater Louis ,

Titolo:

MacBook Pro 15'' late 2013 really hot at normal usage

Testo:

Hey guys,
 
my machine: rMBP 15'' late 2013 (2,6 i7; 16GB Ram; Geforce 750M 2GB, 500GB SSD) with macOS High Sierra 10.13.6 (clean install)
 
'''The main problem:'''
 
The fan goes nuts without any obvious reason (at least to me) just when I plug in an external display. This wasn't the case a year ago, but gradually became worse over the time. My setup and usage hasn't changed, though. I'm a webdeveloper and use the following applications on a daily basis:
 
Safari, Chrome, Mail, Evernote, Slack, Trello, Mamp Pro, Sublime Text 3, Dash, CodeKit – Dropbox, BetterTouchTool, Bartender 3, Alfred 3
 
For a couple of years now the system get's annoyingly hot. And when with a second screen (full hd) the fan kicks in, although the CPU activity is lower than 15%
 
Some more background:
 
* On average the machine goes 7-9 hours a day for the last 5 years.
* Roughly half a year ago I made a clean install of High Sierra
* I regularly open the back and clean out the dust with a lil camera air blower
* 450gig of the 500gig HD is full (but he didn't care about that for years..)
* About 2 years ago I made a PRAM reset
 
Wild guesses on what's causing the heat-issue:
 
* Broken battery?
* Processor heat conductive paste worn off?
* operating system sucks up more performance? (please nooh..)
* SSD drive worn out?
 
I don't want to try every trick I find on the web, I rather get advice from you guys for my specific situation.
 
My questions:
 
1) Is it worth letting a diagnostic tool run over the Mac to see if the hardware is okay?
 
2) Could the hardware just be worn out like this?
 
3) How would you suggest I proceed in order to reduce the heat (remember.. the CPU activity is low when the machine is hot)
 
Looking at the touch bar, butterfly keys and immense raise in price, I find these new MacBooks really unattractive. But leaving macOS is not an option for me, and a Hackintosh Laptop is just too unsafe.
 
I hope to use this beauty of a laptop for at least 2 more years.
 
Thank you very much,
 
René



EDIT: Here is the coconutbattery
[image|1513499]
René



EDIT: Here is the coconutbattery
[image|1513499]

Dispositivo:

MacBook Pro 15" Retina Display Late 2013

Stato:

open

Modifica di: Dan ,

Titolo:

MacBook Pro 15'' late 2013 really hot at normal usage

Testo:

Hey guys,
 
my machine: rMBP 15'' late 2013 (2,6 i7; 16GB Ram; Geforce 750M 2GB, 500GB SSD) with macOS High Sierra 10.13.6 (clean install)
 
the'''The main problem:problem:'''
the'''The main problem:problem:'''
 
theThe fan goes nuts wihtoutwithout any obvious reason (at least to me) just when I plug in an external display. This wasn't the case a year ago, but gradually became worse over the time. My setup and usage hasn't changed, though. I'm a webdeveloper and use the following applications on a daily basis:
theThe fan goes nuts wihtoutwithout any obvious reason (at least to me) just when I plug in an external display. This wasn't the case a year ago, but gradually became worse over the time. My setup and usage hasn't changed, though. I'm a webdeveloper and use the following applications on a daily basis:
 
Safari, Chrome, Mail, Evernote, Slack, Trello, Mamp Pro, Sublime Text 3, Dash, CodeKit – Dropbox, BetterTouchTool, Bartender 3, Alfred 3
 
For a couple of years now the Laptopsystem get's annoyingly hot. And when with a second screen (full hd) the fan kicks in, although the CPU activity is lower than 15%
For a couple of years now the Laptopsystem get's annoyingly hot. And when with a second screen (full hd) the fan kicks in, although the CPU activity is lower than 15%
 
Some more background:
 
* On average the machine goes 7-9 hours a day for the last 5 years.
* roughlyRoughly half a year ago I made a clean install of High Sierra
* roughlyRoughly half a year ago I made a clean install of High Sierra
* I regularly open the back and clean out the dust with a lil camera air blower
* 450gig of the 500gig HD is full (but he didn't care about that for years..)
* About 2 years ago I made a PRAM reset
 
Wild guesses on what's causing the heat-issue:
 
* brokenBroken battery?
* processorProcessor heat conductive paste worn off?
* brokenBroken battery?
* processorProcessor heat conductive paste worn off?
* operating system sucks up more performance? (please nooh..)
* hardSSD drive (ssd) worn off?

I
out?
I
don't want to try every trick I find on the webs;web, I rather get advice from you guys for my specific situation.
* hardSSD drive (ssd) worn off?

I
out?
I
don't want to try every trick I find on the webs;web, I rather get advice from you guys for my specific situation.
 
My questions:
 
1) Is it worth letting a diagnostic tool run over the Mac to see if the hardware is okay?
 
2) Could the hardware just be worn offout like this?
2) Could the hardware just be worn offout like this?
 
3) How would you suggest I proceed in order to reduce the heat (remember.. the CPU activity is low when the machine is hot)
 
Looking at the touch bar, butterfly keys and immense raise in price, I find these new MacBooks really unattractive. But leaving macOS is not an option for me, and a Hackintosh Laptop is just too unsaveunsafe.
Looking at the touch bar, butterfly keys and immense raise in price, I find these new MacBooks really unattractive. But leaving macOS is not an option for me, and a Hackintosh Laptop is just too unsaveunsafe.
 
I hope to buy use this beauty of a laptop for atleastat least 2 more years.
I hope to buy use this beauty of a laptop for atleastat least 2 more years.
 
Thank you very much,
 
René

Dispositivo:

MacBook Pro 15" Retina Display Late 2013

Stato:

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Modifica di: Kater Louis ,

Titolo:

MacBook Pro 15'' late 2013 really hot at normal usage

Testo:

Hey guys,
 
my machine: rMBP 15'' late 2013 (2,6 i7; 16GB Ram; Geforce 750M 2GB, 500GB SSD) with macOS High Sierra 10.13.6 (clean install)
 
the main problem:
 
the fan goes nuts wihtout any obvious reason (at least to me) just when I plug in an external devicedisplay. This wasn't the case a year ago, but gradually became worse over the time. My setup and usage hasn't changed, though. I'm a webdeveloper and use the following applications on a daily basis:
the fan goes nuts wihtout any obvious reason (at least to me) just when I plug in an external devicedisplay. This wasn't the case a year ago, but gradually became worse over the time. My setup and usage hasn't changed, though. I'm a webdeveloper and use the following applications on a daily basis:
 
Safari, Chrome, Mail, Evernote, Slack, Trello, Mamp Pro, Sublime Text 3, Dash, CodeKit – Dropbox, BetterTouchTool, Bartender 3, Alfred 3
 
For a couple of years now the Laptop get's annoyingly hot. And when with a second screen (full hd) the fan kicks in, although the CPU activity is lower than 15%
 
Some more background:
 
* On average the machine goes 7-9 hours a day for the last 5 years.
* roughly half a year ago I made a clean install of High Sierra
* I regularly open the back and clean out the dust with a lil camera air blower
* 450gig of the 500gig HD is full (but he didn't care about that for years..)
* About 2 years ago I made a PRAM reset
 
Wild guesses on what's causing the heat-issue:
 
* broken battery?
* processor heat conductive paste worn off?
* operating system sucks up more performance? (please nooh..)
* hard drive (ssd) worn off?
 
I don't want to try every trick I find on the webs; I rather get advice from you guys for my specific situation.
 
My questions:
 
1) Is it worth letting a diagnostic tool run over the Mac to see if the hardware is okay?
 
2) Could the hardware just worn off like this?
 
3) How would you suggest I proceed in order to reduce the heat (remember.. the CPU activity is low when the machine is hot)
 
Looking at the touch bar, butterfly keys and immense raise in price, I find these new MacBooks really unattractive. But leaving macOS is not an option for me, and a Hackintosh Laptop is just too unsave.
 
I hope to buy use this beauty of a laptop for atleast 2 more years.
 
Thank you very much,
 
René

Dispositivo:

MacBook Pro 15" Retina Display Late 2013

Stato:

open

Post originale di: Kater Louis ,

Titolo:

MacBook Pro 15'' late 2013 really hot at normal usage

Testo:

Hey guys,

my machine: rMBP 15'' late 2013 (2,6 i7; 16GB Ram; Geforce 750M 2GB, 500GB SSD) with macOS High Sierra 10.13.6 (clean install)

the main problem:

the fan goes nuts wihtout any obvious reason (at least to me) just when I plug in an external device. This wasn't the case a year ago, but gradually became worse over the time. My setup and usage hasn't changed, though. I'm a webdeveloper and use the following applications on a daily basis:

Safari, Chrome, Mail, Evernote, Slack, Trello, Mamp Pro, Sublime Text 3, Dash, CodeKit – Dropbox, BetterTouchTool, Bartender 3, Alfred 3

For a couple of years now the Laptop get's annoyingly hot. And when with a second screen (full hd) the fan kicks in, although the CPU activity is lower than 15%

Some more background:

* On average the machine goes 7-9 hours a day for the last 5 years.
* roughly half a year ago I made a clean install of High Sierra
* I regularly open the back and clean out the dust with a lil camera air blower
* 450gig of the 500gig HD is full (but he didn't care about that for years..)
* About 2 years ago I made a PRAM reset

Wild guesses on what's causing the heat-issue:

* broken battery?
* processor heat conductive paste worn off?
* operating system sucks up more performance? (please nooh..)
* hard drive (ssd) worn off? 

I don't want to try every trick I find on the webs; I rather get advice from you guys for my specific situation.

My questions:

1) Is it worth letting a diagnostic tool run over the Mac to see if the hardware is okay?

2) Could the hardware just worn off like this?

3) How would you suggest I proceed in order to reduce the heat (remember.. the CPU activity is low when the machine is hot)

Looking at the touch bar, butterfly keys and immense raise in price, I find these new MacBooks really unattractive. But leaving macOS is not an option for me, and a Hackintosh Laptop is just too unsave.

I hope to buy use this beauty of a laptop for atleast 2 more years.

Thank you very much,

René

Dispositivo:

MacBook Pro 15" Retina Display Late 2013

Stato:

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