Introduzione
Due settimane fa, abbiamo smontato la versione entry level del nuovo MacBook Pro da 13" scoprendo che era più sottile, leggero, veloce e (tristezza) meno riparabile della maggior parte dei laptop di livello professionale. Ogg rivolgiamo i nostri attrezzi sul suo compagno di lancio, quello dotato di Touch Bar. Questa macchina saprà sorprenderci con possibilità di facili aggiornamenti o sarà di tipo usa e getta come la scatola con cui viene consegnato? c'è solo un modo di scoprirlo: è ora di smontarlo.
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La domanda da 1 milione di dollari di oggi: ma questa è una versione ingrandita delo "Escape Edition" da 13" o una versione rimpicciolita del 15" Touch Bar? Ecco quello che ci dicono le specifiche:
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Display IPS Retina da 13,3" con retroilluminazione a LED e risoluzione 2560 × 1600 (227 dpi), gamut colore P3
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Processore dual-core Intel Core i5 Skylake da 2,9 GHz (fino a 3,3 con Turbo Boost) con grafica integrata Intel Iris Graphics 550
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8 GB (disponibile la configurazione con 16 GB) di memoria integrata LPDDR3 da 2133 MHz
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SSD con interfaccia PCIe da 256 GB, 512 GB o 1 TB
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Quattro porte Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C) che supportano la ricarica, DisplayPort, Thunderbolt, USB 3.1 Gen 2
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Touch Bar con sensore Touch ID integrato
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Trackpad Force Touch
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Un'ispezione fatta alla buona del case esterno ci fa scoprire le scontate certificazioni FCC e un nuovo numero modello: A1706.
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Fremiamo all'idea di prendere i nostri cacciaviti e iniziare il lavoro ma, per prima cosa, prendiamo l'altro MacBook Pro Retina da 13" versione fine 2016 per un veloce confronto...
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Secondo Apple, le dimensioni di questo MacBook Pro sono esattamente le stesse di quelle della macchina "Escape Edition" che abbiamo smontato un paio di settimane fa. Possiamo crederci, almeno per un secondo? Certo che possiamo.
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Ti mancano i tasti funzione? Tieni premuto il tasto funzione e vedrai, appunto, i tasti funzione di cui senti tanto la necessità. Modalità Camaleonte attivata.
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Una cosa evidentemente diversa è, naturalmente la situazione delle porte sul lato di dritta. Questa macchina dotata di Touch Bar integra due porte Thunderbolt supplementari, quindi puoi avere il doppio dei posti dove attaccare i tuoi convertitori.
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Per finire, notiamo un paio di sfiati laterali nella parte inferiore della versione Touch Bar, simili a quelle che abbiamo visto in precedenti MacBook Pro Retina, ma assenti nel modello Function Key.
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Lanciandoci nella consueta danza pentalobe-e-ventosa riservata di solito agli iPhone, cacciamo fuori il coperchio con una molto familiare manovra di scorrimento.
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Giochiamo a "Trova le differenze!" Sulla sinistra abbiamo il MacBook Pro Touch Bar, a destra il MBP Escape Edition.
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Sul modello Touch Bar, sembra che sia possibile rimuovere solo il trackpad e il jack cuffie prima di scontrarsi con una barriera a forma di scheda logica.
Seems to bad that they put a *smaller* battery into the Touch Bar model. It has a faster processor (2.9 to 2.0 i5), which presumably uses more power. It has a faster memory bus - that might change power usage, and it has two more thunderbolt/USB-C ports (or maybe two thunderbolt/USB-C and two USB-C-only) I don't know whether that would add a bigger power drain unless all four ports are being used.
Could Apple have simply added half an inch thickness and stuffed in more battery cells without turning it into a "thermal bomb"? (Of course they'd never do that because Apple's thin-ness obsession..)
Why does Escape Edition MBP has only one fan where as Touch bar MBP has two?
Escape edition has a TDP of 15W, while the Touch Bar edition has a TDP of 28W. Almost twice the heat, so need two fans during heavy duty tasks.
Yin Wang -
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Sembra che il 2016 sia l'anno del nuovo connettore, perché è la seconda volta che vediamo questo nuovo approccio al collegamento alla batteria.
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Queste piastra di rame sono per i poli positivo e negativo della batteria.
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Sembra che Apple abbia anche incluso un connettore che porta... da nessuna parte?
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Sarà una porta per la diagnostica? I circuiti e il firmware richiedono dei collaudi, benché ci sia una buona quantità di punti di test che di solito ricoprono questo ruolo.
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Abbiamo scoperto anche il jack cuffie modulare, questa volta senza microfoni pendenti che in questa macchina diventano un ricordo del passato.
Too many lines to be a diagnostic port, look at the shielding as well, this is a high speed interface.
I'm thinking Apple realized it need a means to access the soldered SSD if the rest of the system died. So this is a jumper block to connect the onboard SSD to either the onboard CPU or externally to another system to access the data on the SSD via the connection. Its also possible it may allow one to add in a daughter board, additional SSD storage.
That would be my thought as well Dan, they have to give themselves some way out when you fry your machine.
Add in a daughter board *where*? (Unless they want to go the way of Google's sadly defunct Ara project..)
jimwitte -
Dan, diagnostic ports often have high speed interfaces (e.g. JTAG and HSSTP) in order to debug onboard controllers.
Yes, thats true it would be on the faster side, but not so fast as to need the extra shielding. Also look at its location and besides a diagnostic port would have fewer lines. I'm very sure you are looking at a 8 lane PCIe interface given the number of lines (1x8+2x4). That would leave the two 4 lane interfaces are for the Thunderbolt chips.
Dan -
Until someone gets access to the service manual or training we are just guessing here. Common sense and experience can lead us to the most probable function.
Gaining access to a dead systems SSD is a likely function, the other would be for diagnostics. I'm discounting the diagnostic function as one only needs about 20 lines to setup HSSTP for a low end setup. Remember the MacBook Pro is not that complex a device to need more than the basic setup (this connector is offering 42 pins + 4 grounds as well as a full shield)
Here’s the special SSD access tool! https://9to5mac.com/2016/11/24/apple-spe...
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In modo molto simile al modello Function Keys, il trackpad del Touch Bar scorre fuori facilmente una volta liberato da 10 viti Torx T5.
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Possiamo anche riferire con gioia che i trackpad di questi rispettivi modelli sono identici e probabilmente intercambiabili.
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Nel caso che tu te lo sia perso, ecco gli IC che avevamo identificato nel primo giro:
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MCU ARM Cortex-M3 STMicroelectronics STM32F103VB
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Controller Touch Broadcom BCM5976C1KUFBG
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ADC Delta-Sigma a 6 canali e 24 bit Maxim Integrated MAX11291ENX
Wheres the taptic engine? There's three settings for feedback level, so it's in there somewhere.
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Siamo pronti a rimuovere il resto delle periferiche. Sarebbe stato bello a questo punto dare un'occhiata alla batteria, alle ventole, ai dissipatori e agli altoparlanti. Solo che non possiamo farlo.
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La scheda logica simmetrica fa la guardia ai componenti rimasti, quindi dobbiamo staccare a colpi di spudger i suoi cavi di connessione per poterla liberare dal case.
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Il dissipatore è collegato alla scheda logica con delle viti sul fondo. Una volta estratta dal case la scheda, possiamo rimuovere il dissipatore per esaminarlo; con un heat pipe (tubo di dissipazione calore) che va in ciascuna direzione, ha il doppio dei tubi del modello entry level.
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Diamo un'occhiata
ai baffi a manubrioalla scheda logica per vedere quali chip fanno di questo MacBook un "Pro": -
Processore Intel Core i5-6267U con Intel Iris Graphics 550
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Controller Thunderbolt 3 Intel JHL6540
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64 GB (x2 per un totale di 128 GB) di memoria flash NAND SanDisk SDRQKBDC4 064G
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DRAM DDR3 (4 x 2 GB per 8 GB totali) Samsung K4E6E304EB-EGCE
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Texas Instruments SN650839 72C27RNGI e controller SMC TI/Stellaris LM4FS1EH (codice sostitutivo per TM4EA231)
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Modulo Wi-Fi Murata/Apple 339S00056
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R4432ACPE-GD-F
Why are they using 4x2 GB RAM modules? Is this making any sense? Didn't they just use one?
That is JEDEC LPDDR3 spec and the spec intel processor supports.
The LPDDR3 chip supports 32-bits data width and to support 128-bits LPDDR3 data width intel processor supports . It needs 4 four LPDDR3 chips.
JJ Wu -
A couple of possible reasons:
- Wiring for 4 chips would be necessary to support the 1TB SSD option (4 x 256GB)
- Access is faster when solid state storage is spread over more chips (wider bus).
Not sure I follow you here. The RAM interface is independent of the SSD interface (PCIe).
Dan -
Intel Core i5-6267U processor only supports LPDDR3 upto 1866Mhz (base on Intel link). If the LPDDR3 in the MacBook Pro has maximum data rate is 2133Mhz. Is the maximum data rate 2133 or 1866 Mhz?
Apple control so much of what they use that it gives them potential to go a long way outside the box.
Given that they totally control the SSD controller, then there are things that they could do to greatly improve paging performance to fast SSD. And those things could well involve wanting the widest memory path that they can get.
which network card is in it?..........
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Anche girando sul retro la scheda logica si trova una cornucopia di componenti, tra i quali:
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64 GB di memoria flash NAND SanDisk SDRQKBDC4 (come nell'SSD rimovibile dell'Escape Edition) che portano il totale a 256 GB
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APL1023 343S00137 (probabilmente il chip personalizzato Apple T1 che si accoppia con la Touch Bar)
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2x Texas Instruments TI CD3215C00 68C7QKW G1
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Intersil 95828 HRTZ X630MRD
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(Apple?) 338S00193-A1 16348HCI
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Memoria seriale flash da 64 Mb WinBond SpiFlash W25Q64FVZPIQ
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Controller NFC NXP 66V10, contenente Secure Element 008 e NXP PN549 (come già visto nell'iPhone 6s)
Does the NFC chip mean that the MBP could theoretically be used with Apple Pay? Or is there some other reason they would have included it? (Apple, *futureproofing*? The devices are almost hermetically sealed, so there's probably no possibility of even an "Apple blessed" upgrade option) Chipworks has their docs on it, but they cost many hundreds or thousands of dollars each (do they perhaps have a student discount?)
It's only for the secure element. If my memory is right, the iPad also has a similar controller but doesn't support NFC.
I want to buy this. Where can I find it? Can you help me?
2x Texas Instruments TI CD3215C00 68C7QKW G1
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Altri chip sul retro:
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2x Switch Video DisplayPort 1.2, HDMI 2.0 Pericom PI3WVR12612
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Codec audio Cirrus Logic CS42L83A
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National Semiconductor 66A82NU 48B1-004
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Controller buck sincrono alimentazione memoria Texas Instruments TPS51916 e controller buck sincrono TPS51980A
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PMIC (chip gestione alimentazione) Texas Instruments TMP513A
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2x PMIC Fairchild Semiconductor FDMC7570S
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PMIC Fairchild Semiconductor FDMC86106LZ
Does anyone have a datasheet for the audio logic? (CS42L83A) I cannot find one on the internet.
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Un'altra nuova caratteristica del MacBook Pro con Touch Bar è l'aggiunta del Touch ID.
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L'hardware che collabora a far andare questa pregiata caratteristica contiene un pulsante accoppiato con sensori capacitivi in grado di distinguere le dita. Evvai con la biometrica.
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Il pulsante Touch ID è sormontato da un cristallo in zaffiro che dovrebbe proteggere dalle rigature lo scanner di impronte digitali.
as if capacitive buttons just break
Samsung and Micron/MicronPC/MPC laptops had fingerprint readers and security software using them since the late 1990's. Dunno if Samsung continued to do so after MPC went out of business in 2008, cutting off that channel for selling Samsung's high end laptops in the North American market.
Hi everyone
What is the black “plastic” which be two black screws hold?
Is it make button more elasticity?
Thank you
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Appese a ciascuna delle estremità della scheda logica, troviamo delle piccole schede modulari USB-C.
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Dopo di ciò, possiamo finalmente estrarre le ventole. Questi soffiatori di cui tanto si è parlato sono da 43 mm di diametro, un pelo meno della ventola da 45 mm che avevamo trovato nel MacBook Pro in versione entry level (qui però ne abbiamo due).
I think it was a big mistake to loose the MagSafe concept for the power cord. I've tripped on my cord a few times thankfully the cord disconnected before the laptop took a spill.
Could the USB-C hardware-connector spec be made with a magnetic clasp? Or does Microsoft have a patent on doing that for something with more than 5 pins?
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Sobriamente inserite tra il bordo del MacBook e la tastiera, ci sono due griglie per gli altoparlanti: superfici finemente traforate che incanalano le onde sonore fuori dal MacBook Pro verso... Alt un momento.
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Gli altoparlanti non sono disposti sotto le griglie stesse. La griglia dell'altoparlante non è nemmeno aperta in tutta la sua superficie.
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Questi speaker probabilmente esprimono la loro notevole qualità sonora attraverso le feritoie di ventilazione laterali.
It looks to me like these speakers are simply ported— a common technique used in home theater speakers to achieve bigger sound. Also, the way this is laid out the speakers are further away from the logic board too, which might allow Apple to crank the bass further up, knowing that potentially chip-breaking low-frequency sound waves have more distance to dissipate.
All those perforations probably shave off quite a few grams of weight compared to a solid slab of aluminium.
Perhaps - then why didn't they put *more* of them in? Since weight seems to be second only to thin-ness on Apple's list-of-priorities.
jimwitte -
I spill only a drop of water at speaker grill on the left. Is it damaged my macbook?
If you cover the speaker grilles it does block the sound, your detail is incorrect.
so the grills only go clear through the case at the bottom as shown ? I dropped only a few drops of liquid on the upper grills beside the delete button and cleaned it right away, is it safe ?
Yeah, despite all the whining in the comments, all those speaker holes up there ARE cosmetic. The only ones that are actual, functional holes in the aluminum are way down next to the right arrow key. As long as your spill didn’t get onto the keyboard keys or the power button, you’re perfectly fine—it’s no different than if you got some liquid onto the palm rest or the display lid. Rest easy!
Dear iFixit. Firrst: I love you guys! BUT… sorry to say your assumtion may not be 100% The down firing speakers are the subwoofers(!). There are little, closed compartments like little domes right above them, which contain the tweeters. Maybe you can add another picture for this detail
Dear iFixit. First: I love you guys! But… sorry to say your description may not be 100%. The down firing speakers are the subwoofers(!). There are little, closed compartments like little domes right above them, which contain the tweeters. Maybe you can add another picture for this detail?
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Accolti dalla resistenza opposta da un tenace adesivo, adoperiamo una combinazione di plettro di apertura e spudger per staccare l'altoparlante destro dal case superiore.
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Con i nostri occhietti scopriamo quello che potrebbe essere un minuscolo altoparlante, incuneato nell'angolo al di sopra del "vero" altoparlante.
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Ci era piaciuta la bella soluzione delle viti ammortizzate con la gomma in nome dell'isolamento acustico per ancorare gli altoparlanti nel MBP Function Keys. Sembra che invece il Touch Bar adoperi una colla tenacissima.
Hmmm, two-way audio system in a Mac laptop? Interesting.
It is a two way sound system. If you cover the top "holes" with your hands the high frequency cuts out. However, it's hard to tell if all the holes are drilled or just enough for the tweeter. In any case it sounds great and is LOUD. I suppose the function key model though will sound better.
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Siamo vicini alla Touch bar, così vicini che possiamo quasi toccarla.
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Apple sembra voler mettere in gioco il suo proclama relativo alla sua alta tecnologia, schiaffando una vite Pentalobe P2 sul punto di accesso alla Touch Bar.
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Stacchiamo un cavo di interconnessione dalla parte inferiore; collega la scheda logica al display della Touch Bar e sembra ospitare del silicio di gestione del display stesso, Qui troviamo:
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STMicroelectronics 32A 8628
The power/Touch ID button needs to be replaced at the same time as the logic board, or vice versa as they're paired at the factory presumably. So a power button means you have to transfer ALL the data from one SSD to the next!!
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Per andare avanti, bisogna metterci un po' di calore. Chiamiamo in soccorso il nostro amico, l'iOpener, per assisterci nella rimozione della Touch Bar.
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Ragazzi, venite tutti a vedere! Oggi imparerete come rompere accidentalmente la Touch Bar. I nostri sforzi per separare il pannello OLED dal case superiore hanno portato alla separazione del digitizer dal display. Guardate e imparate.
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Per aggiungere il danno alla beffa, il cavo flessibile della Touch Bar passa sotto il case superiore, rendendo la sua rimozione giusto un po' più fastidiosa di quanto ci aspettassimo.
Could be a great idea to put in the front of Step 19 two red exclamation marks for people to pay attention? Maybe in the corners of the pictures as well?
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Il tocco umano deve essere gestito da un cervello. La Touch Bar deve essere gestita da un chip. Con qualche operazione di chirurgia, scopriamo il cervello della Touch Bar.
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Controller touch Broadcom BCM5976TC1KUB60G
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La rimozione della striscia OLED è abbastanza difficile, ma i nostri sforzi non sono stati vani! Soltanto un po' vani. Ok, l'oggetto dei nostri sforzi è andato in frantumi (insieme alle nostre speranze e ai nostri sogni). Però sappiamo che la Touch Bar è fragile.
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Il fragile mistero della touch bar si infittisce quando ci imbattiamo in un chip non marcato. Data la sua posizione, è probabilmente un qualche tipo di driver del display.
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Dopo esserci liberati di tutta la roba in mezzo scopriamo un gruppo di tre microfoni. Ma che cosa ascolterà quello più a sinistra? La ventola? La tastiera? Chi lo sa!
The third microphone is probably there to remove fan noise + keyboarding clicking noise.
Nah - I'd guess it's either Apple and/or the NSA listening in on sex chats.. (Oh, sorry, that was my inner Steve Bannon..)
jimwitte -
Does photo 2 here serve as confirmation that the leftmost part of the touch bar is inactive, meaning that a soft escape key cannot be properly located far enough left to be directly above the backquote/tilde key?
But it's actually touchable. If you touch the leftmost part of the touch bar, esc-key will be pressed (and highlighted).
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Per ultima tiriamo fuori la batteria a cinque celle (tenacemente incollate).
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Devi augurarti che la tua carriera "Pro" sia breve; questa sostituzione della batteria è una roba da pazzi.
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La scheda della batteria ospita un TI BQ20Z451 (è possibile che sia una variante della linea BQ20Z45-R1, sempre presente nei MacBook Pro).
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Con una potenza di targa di 49,2 Wh, questa batteria sembra un po' meno ambiziosa di quella da 54,5 Wh del modello con i tasti funzione, specialmente considerando che le viene affidata una funzionalità (il gioco di parole non è casuale) più elevata.
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Per mettere i puntini sulle i, facciamo salire le batterie su una bilancia: quella del MacBook Pro dotato di tasti funzione pesa 235 grammi, questa pesa solo 197 grammi.
Hello this rMBP 13,3" with touch bar , the battery how many mHa ?
Portable External Battery perspective I'm interested in
How could the touch bar edition feature a smaller battery but yet about the same batter hour of usage at 10 hours?
Those cells look tiny. I hope next year's model has a capacity of at least 70 watt hours with two cells in each one.
What about the keyboard? Can it be replaced?
Do you really have to take 18(!) steps in order to remove the battery of a touch bar model? Seems a little exaggerated to me.
This isn't a guide—it's just an overview of the hardware.
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- Si può rimuovere il trackpad senza aver prima tolto la batteria.
- Le viti di tipo proprietario pentalobe continuano a rendere inutilmente difficile l'apertura del dispositivo.
- Il gruppo batteria è completamente, e molto solidamente, incollato al case; questo complica la sostituzione.
- Il processore, la RAM e anche la memoria flash sono saldati alla scheda logica.
- Il Touch Bar aggiunge un secondo schermo che si può danneggiare ed è anche questo difficile da sostituire.
- Il sensore Touch ID funziona anche da pulsante di accensione ed è accoppiato con il chip T1 sulla scheda logica. La riparazione di un interruttore guasto può richiedere l'aiuto diretto di Apple oppure una nuova scheda logica.
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what a mess inside. especially given the spaces around the batteries, and the off position of speakers, looks like the chassis was optimised for the non-touchbar version (much cleaner layout, removable SSD, no gaps), and touchbar addition was a later decision. Maybe initially they envisaged only the 15" would have touchbar.
a similar case of "odd unused chassis space" happened with the first gen 13" retina macbook pro, which had empty space under the trackpad. Was probably a late decision to use small form SSD over 2.5" SSD. this empty space was used up on subsequent updates.
to me the touchbar version has way too many compromises. the biggest issues are: smaller battery, while using a processor with a higher TDP. and non upgradable SSD (arguably the only component that might require future upgrade, unless you want to pay extraordinary money right now).
How do you do a power rest if the machine hangs? Before you held down the power button for a few seconds. Would that work with a touch ID button?
It still is a physical button. Just like the iPhones (except iPhone 7).
mamufek -
I would assume that you still do - the Touch ID sensor is still a physical button, so there's no reason it doesn't work like a normal button as before. However, to stop it shutting down the machine with a single click, I'd imagine macOS has some code in it saying "if the power button is pushed while the computer is on, it's probably for Touch ID things, so don't shut down".
in fact you have to press it long to act like a power button says the apple support page :P
First generation computers tend to lend themselves to some issues. However, given the price bump and the Apple brand I was expecting more, much more. The concept seems nice, the hardware implementation not so much. Laptops are to be mobile, so sacrificing battery life for weight is not a design decision that appeals to me. With Skylake I was expecting the REAL battery life to surpass 12 hours...
MacBook Pro with SSD RAID 0 inside?
Not here, sorry ;-{
Dan -
So can you move the touch ID sensor to another mac? Does it still work? Or are we going to have an Error 53 for Mac and a connect to iTunes screens.
Of course you can't. It's like the TouchID on iPhones and iPads. It's paired with the T1.
probably everything works execpt touchID, hopefully apple learned their lesson
Lack of repair-ability is understandable and unavoidable in today's world of disposable gadgets. If my $500 laptop craps out, so be it. However, $2000 worth of computer is not disposable. I would never buy another macbook.
It's not unrepairable. It's just unrepairable by unequipped amateurs, which is where iFixit sell their bits and pieces.
And those same things that make it more difficult to repair, also make it less likely to go wrong in the first place.
Again, not in iFixit's commercial interest to encourage.
alex -
I guess I see things a bit differently than Alex here. True IFIXIT is a business as such they do need to make money, but its more than that. The vision is to not create waste by repurpose or repair. The more Apple goes down this path of non-repairable it kills their own mission of being ecology minded. People don't want to throw away a $2 - 3 K system just to get a bit more memory or storage. They want some expandability! Likewise, being forced to replace major assemblies to deal with a small part failure is also wasteful!
Dan -
Random question - what do you end up doing with the things you tear down after? Do they all go back together again (and end up in full working condition)?
As you can see they've already ruined a lot of things, so this is not going back together.
Tom Chai -
From the IFIXIT team: "Not to worry—we definitely don't let our teardown devices go to waste. Oftentimes we will use them to create a full set of repair guides. We create some in-house and also send devices through our edu program to teach technical writing. You can learn more about that here. After that, we make sure they find a good home, or dispose of them responsibly."
Dan -
Wait, no split fin fans in the touchbar 13" either? I thought their website showed the touchbar 13" as having them...?
'On the 15-inch MacBook Pro, an innovative split blade design allows for more blades and delivers increased airflow.'
If you compare in Step 4 the two versions of the MacBook, you can see the version without the touch has the vent openings for the second fan too.
"The speakers are not located under the speaker grilles. The speaker grille doesn't even go clear through the case."
Yet the tweeter can clearly be seen in the red box in this image:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/j13u5ev3ypekr8...
Okay then iFixit....
Noted and the text was corrected clarifying the openings are for the twitter speaker.
Dan -
Does step 17, photo 2 serve as confirmation that the leftmost part of the touch bar is inactive, meaning that a soft escape key cannot be properly located far enough left to be directly above the backquote/tilde key?
The area is the interface to the ribbon connector that goes to the logic board. I do agree the placement is troubling. I suspect the designer wanted to be symmetrical with the other side as the Touch ID/Power Switch is the same amount of space so the Touch Bar is cropped in on that side. I'm surprised as well they didn't think this through. I would have brought the Touch display all the way to the left edge and used the underside for the connection point. There is no reason it couldn't be a bit asymmetrical.
Dan -
> There is no reason [the Touch Bar] couldn't be a bit asymmetrical.
Except that Jobs liked symmetry..
jimwitte -
what a shame! apple think all their users are stupid. they probably are 99% right. Who cares if you cant upgrade the ssd? The next step will be solder the battery too? What else they can invent to suck the idiots money? I fell terrible windows pc are so much worst... for now who cares about upgrade at least the ssd will be in the hunt for the old models. And sandisk? common, this is only to change to samsung ssd next year and announce a twice fast ssd?
"What else they can invent to suck the idiots money?" How does a book for 300 bucks sound?
Thomas J -
A stand for your Pro Display XDR for $1000!
Other crazy prices:
VESA Mount Adapter - $199.00
Apple Mac Pro Wheels Kit - $699.00
Apple Mac Pro Feet Kit - $299.00
it's crazy apple designed a separate 13 inch function key model instead of just shrinking down the touch bar model, sure it might save money on the long run, but design and testing and manufacturing two completely different 13 inch would mean ........................................................................................people from macbook air department would still keep their jobs.
This is the mate to the 13" Function key model Here is the 15" Touch Bar Teardown. What are you saying here, you want the new MacBook to have the Touch Bar?
Dan -
Am I reading the data sheet for the ram correctly? The Samsung ram was released in 2012, and is rated at ~1066MHz??? Is this somehow run in tandem to yield 2133MHz?
Briefly looking through some of the early Geekbench scores, it seems the new rMBP doesn’t have much of an edge, if any over the predecessor. Upon looking closer, it seems the memory tests are slower on the newer model. This doesn’t add up per Apple’s claim! Is this yet another crippling disappointment?
Why da fcuk do you need to open it?!
IT JUST WORKS!
Ok, the Sandisk SSD can break down, that can happen. But everything else is working forever.
You do realize that the SanDisk SSD is now soldered onto the logic board, it may be the first to die, but if it dies the entire board is useless and thus you will need a logic board replacement. Lets hope you keep backups because without a removable SSD there's no chance of getting your data recovered.
It appears you do not grasp the concept of why repair guides are created:
~1 Some people (like me) just LOVE knowing how things work - that's how we become engineers, and are able to repair things and design other things, make informed decisions (which we can confidently pass on to others with less inclination or interest to know this stuff.)
~2 Because repairing your own device teaches you independence and VALUABLE skills which are transferable and profitable, and also enjoyable to learn and practice.
It's also fine to be a consumer who DOESN'T, but it's illogical for you to criticise or chastise those who DO take them apart, kapish?
GOLD contacts, not copper; the copper is the underlying substrate that is the PCB trace.
With respect, iFixit, leave the puns to us English folks, your attempts are extremely contrived and... well... they don't work and detract from the articles you feel the urge to force them into. PLEASE, just don't try to be funny - we come here to see things stripped down, not for comedy - others do it way better.
Thanks :)
With respect, iFixit, add additional puns. We love your extremely contrived attempts at humor. They simply work, never detracting from the articles. They are as welcome as caviar on toast. Please, be funny! We come here for two things, stripping and comedy. No one else does it better.
Thanks {:-)
Hello,
Does anyone know if these new Macbook pros have 3x3 Wi-Fi antennas like the 2013 models ?
Thank you !
This model appears to have 3 transmit antennas (see image of the back without cover, near right fan). I think this is a 3x3 wifi model. The non-touch bar model is 2x2.
Curious what the shielded port is for. I am skeptical that it is for reading the SSD, since the SSD usually needs communication with the SMC, CPU and requires 3.42v and 3.3v S0 voltages to power it (among other circuits/signals). Unless the reader tool which plugs in independently powers the SSD ICs, I think it will be unlikely.
I think there is a high chance it is just a shielded diagnostic port, to better protect it from liquid damage. On older models (Macbook Air is a good example) if the diagnostic port gets liquid damaged, Apple can no longer use the port to read important voltages. It can also prevent the Macbook from working correctly, which is why a lot of diagnostic ports get removed by 3rd party repair centres.
In time, we will see I guess...
I've had many laptops over the years and at the end of use I always removed the data disk in order to protect my privacy. Now I have security/privacy concerns about the soldered SSD. If the logic board (or the SSD itself) goes wrong, how can you ensure that the data is removed?
Nah, it's pretty simple. Turn on FileVault encryption (you already have it on don't you?), and then when you remove your userID and recovery key you make the SSD unreadable.
Alternatively, you could remove the logic board and destroy the SSD by smashing the data chips. I'd be a bit of a waste, but it's secure!
Sir ifixit engineers if the touch bar is fragile I think it will be broken when taken by non experts or local repair technicians.what to do unless we replace it we do not need to touch it.for replacing keyboard is it necessary to remove touch bar I am asking this because it is so fragile.i know you're experts.pls help ifixit engineers as soon within less time I am waiting for you
Sir pls help I look your website everytime for disassembly
Sir ifixit where is the harddisk and dvd drive.plshelp as soon as possible
Why apple is making it's laptops unrepairable
Ives has too much input at Apple. He has developed an anorexic approach to design. He has slimmed down the look of MacOS from a 3D look to a flat bland desktop. Functional and repair sacrifices were made to make the equipment "The thinnest we ever made it" The touch bar is a nice idea but it can only be fixed by replacing the entire top of the computer. I have replaced just the keyboard for a MBP for just $40. It's held in with over 30 very small screws and was a lot of work. Still fixable though. Apple just replaces the whole top. We couldn't be foiled with special screws. Just solder and glue everything in place now. The touch bar is, in effect, part of the upper frame. USB C is great as a multiport but the loss of Magsafe is just wrong. We are back to our laptops flying off the tables again. Oh wait - More broken Macs that have to be replaced! Soldered in drives for the sake of thinness, look how this compulsion worked for Karen Carpenter.
Why is there 5 batteries and not 3? One big would have bigger capacity than 2 smaller.
Where is the wifi Chipset for the 802.11 and Bluetooth? why didnt you guys list it for the 15 inch model and you listed it for the 13 inch?
Hey there Moe Khan! In step 8 there is the Murata/Apple Wi-Fi chip. This is likely a combination of both Wi-Fi and Bluetooth. Unfortunately this is a proprietary chip, so there is no publicly available data sheet (at least as far as I know). This means we can't confirm that this is FOR SURE a Bluetooth chip. We are just "pretty sure". I hope this helps you! (I also responded to your post on the 15" MBP with Touch Bar).
Hello I am contacting you from the Experimac East Orlando store. I was wondering if the Display was easily removable or if i would have to do something with the Touch Bar to remove the screen. Looking forward to more Tear Downs, thanks again iFixit Team!
Hello. I just broken my screen. What are the chances that it can be fixed?
Nothing there about keyboard disassembly.
Mine has several keys that are now mushy and not clicky and I'd like to see a way of getting it apart without breaking the butterfly assembly.
Anyone?
Are there tamper proof screws or other booby traps that would let Apple know the computer has been opened up to void a warranty?
Recently got my screen broken and went black as just the “broken” area displays strands of colors. Went to Apple Store and said that they would reply within the day but never got any feedback from them. Can the Retina Display be repaired without the need of buying another laptop? If it can, how much can it be to repair it? I would appreciate any answers. Thank you.
Please make a tutorial of how to apply new, quality thermal paste to the Macbook pro’s processor. Quinn of Snazzy Labs showed us, that using higher quality paste results in about 10% performance gains.
In regards to the MacBook Pro internal cables/parts, can some one tell me what “Mylar BMU eDP TCON” is?
Can the battery be removed/replaced without the full teardown?
Hello, is anyone can help me to locate graphic card chit on this logic board? i have the board but not sure about specs. Thanks.
Hi, is it possible replace logic board on another if is dead? I mean in home, without service and logic board from ebay?
HOLA TENGO UN MAC BOOKPRO CON TOUCH BAR 2017 CON EL ERROR
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SE ME REINICIA A VECES NO QUIERO ARRANCAR SE PRESENTO EL ERROR CUANDO ACTUALIZE A CATALINA.
QUE PODRIA HACER AL RESPECTO.
GRACIAS
Grazie mille per questa guida. Dovevo sostituire la tastiera di questo pc, ma alla fine abbiamo optato di sostituire tutto quanto il pezzo intero. In alcuni punti mi ero proprio perso perché era la prima volta mettevo le mani su questo modello, ma grazie a questo teardown sono riuscito a levarmi dei dubbi su alcuni punti. Molto difficile ma anche parecchio soddisfacente come riparazione.
"Today's million-dollar question: Is this a scaled-up version of the 13-inch "Escape Edition," or a scaled-down version of the 15-inch Touch Bar unit? Here's what the tech specs tell us:"
So we'll need the teardown of the 15" to be sure.
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Where I can find information about remplace the SSD from 256gb to 1Tb in the model A1706? Its impossible shopping the hdd!
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